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refic
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 Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:17 am Post subject: Renting MJ12nodes [was: MJ12-optimized VPSes ..] |
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EDIT: Changed the title of the thread to be more accurate. This thread is not about VPSes but renting MJ12nodes.
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rilian
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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i spend around 30$ each month for different DC-dedicated VPS, of course with lower traffic ..
what's your offer? we can gather with Ukraine team mates and get a node 
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I would be interested but I'd love to know the details first  |
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refic
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Umm.. 1-2GB guaranteed RAM, 50GB HDD, 1-2 CPU cores. Something like that I think. And of course the unlimited inbound traffic and enough outbound traffic to run nodes.
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Deadly_Fire
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| I would expect somewhere around $40-60 would be OK? (depending on performance and reputation of provider). |
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scottsaxman
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I'm intrigued by this. I am only somewhat techy, so maybe you guys could help me understand what all is required. What if I wanted to buy a less fancy VPS for a while to run an MJ12 node? What do I need to know to get started and administer the VPS, what would it cost, and what is a decent host? And, what else can I do with it?
Please ask questions, as I probably don't know enough to really even be dangerous. |
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refic
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| Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:37 am Post subject: |
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| Deadly_Fire wrote: | | I would expect somewhere around $40-60 would be OK? (depending on performance and reputation of provider). |
Yes, something like that.
| scottsaxman wrote: | | I'm intrigued by this. I am only somewhat techy, so maybe you guys could help me understand what all is required. What if I wanted to buy a less fancy VPS for a while to run an MJ12 node? What do I need to know to get started and administer the VPS, what would it cost, and what is a decent host? And, what else can I do with it? |
Well first of all you need a VPS that has enough CPU, RAM and bandwidth to actually run a node.. and I was thinking of start providing such service. I won't be as cheap as some other VPSes though because of the requirements to run a node.
A VPS is pretty much like a normal server. You get full access to it and can do whatever you want with it. In this case the OS of choice will be Linux, so you need to have some basic knowledge of it.
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I think it is also possible that we skip the VPS part and I just run the nodes for you. This would save you from having to configure the VPS, Mono, etc. You would of course get access to the web GUI. Would this be better than having a VPS?
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rilian
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| Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:50 am Post subject: |
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refic, would you provide such service using your home internet connection ?
| Quote: | | I think it is also possible that we skip the VPS part and I just run the nodes for you. This would save you from having to configure the VPS, Mono, etc. You would of course get access to the web GUI. Would this be better than having a VPS? |
i think it's ok for MJ-dedicated node
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refic
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| rilian wrote: | | refic, would you provide such service using your home internet connection ? |
Heh, no.
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When saying VPS - do you mean what most people mean?
i.e. virtuozzo/openvz?
if yes, i must strongly advise you not to try hosting several mj12 vps's on one physical machine.
with vz all instances share the same kernel - mj12 is very hard on stuff like tcp buffers because of the many open connections.
i've managed a few vz hosts and even with "normal" guest systems i had to tune kernel settings (especially tcp tunables) to absurd amounts - and from my experiences the linux kernel doesnt run as smooth as it should be with huge tables in kernel memory
what i can however advise you to do is to use some sort of hardware accelerated (VT) full virtualisation (i prefer kvm via libvirt)
if you use bridged networking on the host, then the traffic that each mj12 instance creates becomes completely stateless for the host machine and easy to manage - the tcp management is also spread to several kernels (one per vm)
just a little warning from someone who had problems with this kinda stuff on container based virtual machines before  |
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refic
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| arni wrote: | | just a little warning from someone who had problems with this kinda stuff on container based virtual machines before |
Thanks, I appreciate it.  I was actually thinking of using KVM or Xen, it would probably need some testing of which one works well enough.
But the ideal solution would of course be not to use VPSes at all but just run all nodes on the same server. Do people really need access to the files anyway? Also people who don't have the required knowledge to use a VPS could use the service.
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refic
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:33 am Post subject: |
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Who wants a test node?
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I would be interested in trying one if you need testers but won't be paying for one...
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refic
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| batkerson wrote: | | I would be interested in trying one if you need testers but won't be paying for one... |
Sure thing, I'll PM details later today. I just need to test that the server is good enough to run multiple nodes first.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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| refic wrote: | | I just need to test that the server is good enough to run multiple nodes first. |
I could be interested in a test node. What kind of limitations, or guides and rules, are you going to have on the node(s)?  |
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